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	<title>Comments on: csSecurityTaskExtraPlugin: Untangle Complex Security Confusion</title>
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		<title>By: NiKo</title>
		<link>http://brentertainment.com/2010/02/07/cssecuritytaskextraplugin-untangle-complex-security-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-90</link>
		<dc:creator>NiKo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, that would be a fantastic feature to have in symfony, but a little be trickier to implement.

In a first (but somewhat consequent) step, just having to type app:test-security (or more simply test:security) to check all the configured security rules against user/credentials defined in the model *automatically* would just be amazingly useful :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, that would be a fantastic feature to have in symfony, but a little be trickier to implement.</p>
<p>In a first (but somewhat consequent) step, just having to type app:test-security (or more simply test:security) to check all the configured security rules against user/credentials defined in the model *automatically* would just be amazingly useful <img src='http://brentertainment.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh, this is an edge case I did not consider.

As for your suggestion about automating tests, you could even have a parsible text file a la:

- Users of GROUP group can access MODULE / ACTION
- Users with PERMISSION permission cannot access MODULE ACTION
- User USERNAME can access MODULE

And automate from there.  Similar to Cucumber (http://cukes.info/) for ruby, but more specialized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh, this is an edge case I did not consider.</p>
<p>As for your suggestion about automating tests, you could even have a parsible text file a la:</p>
<p>- Users of GROUP group can access MODULE / ACTION<br />
- Users with PERMISSION permission cannot access MODULE ACTION<br />
- User USERNAME can access MODULE</p>
<p>And automate from there.  Similar to Cucumber (<a href="http://cukes.info/" rel="nofollow">http://cukes.info/</a>) for ruby, but more specialized.</p>
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		<title>By: NiKo</title>
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		<dc:creator>NiKo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a thing, it looks that the plugin won&#039;t introspect security from plugins modules which are enabled in an app...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a thing, it looks that the plugin won&#8217;t introspect security from plugins modules which are enabled in an app&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: NiKo</title>
		<link>http://brentertainment.com/2010/02/07/cssecuritytaskextraplugin-untangle-complex-security-confusion/comment-page-1/#comment-87</link>
		<dc:creator>NiKo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neat. What would be great would be to have some ability to script&#124;configure full security test suites using a matrix like the one in the task output, or a yaml file, maybe a sfSecurityTester or something approaching... The idea would be then to have web security test coverage integrated with lime results.

More fun: could be fully automated; you know the users, the groups and perms, so all user credentials; you know the required credentials configured for all controllers within an application. Iterating over all members, challenging every controller access with their credentials should be &quot;quite easy&quot; (well, you know what I mean here).

Random rough thoughts, handle with care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neat. What would be great would be to have some ability to script|configure full security test suites using a matrix like the one in the task output, or a yaml file, maybe a sfSecurityTester or something approaching&#8230; The idea would be then to have web security test coverage integrated with lime results.</p>
<p>More fun: could be fully automated; you know the users, the groups and perms, so all user credentials; you know the required credentials configured for all controllers within an application. Iterating over all members, challenging every controller access with their credentials should be &#8220;quite easy&#8221; (well, you know what I mean here).</p>
<p>Random rough thoughts, handle with care.</p>
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